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I was driving to work years ago when I first got pots, on the way to work my heart rate just started pounding, I know now what 165 beats per minute feels like and if i had to guess I'd say at that time my heart rate was 200 or more, I called 911 by the time they arrived the rate was back to normal, but I was shaking all over. this happened another time on my job, again by the time 911 came it had stopped again I came out shaking, I would like to know if with pots is this normal to have your heart rate go up suddenly and fast. has anyone had this with pots, the doctor put in a recorder in my chest to see if it was tachycardia rather than a gradual but fast increase, they found no tachacardia when it happened again, it was 165 and no "TACH" (Tach is considered a jump rather than a gradual increase)
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Wow, that totally happened to me a few times. However, I didn't call 911 but thought I was dying right there behind the wheel. My doctor tells me these are panic attacks, so I've learned to just wait them out, but it's completely physical as nothing emotional triggers them.. really weird stuff! I usually get very nauseated also and shaky weak from them.
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Hey, thanks for the reply I thought I was the only person with Pots that that has happened to. Do you also have POTS? I have been so afraid to drive since those episodes happened, I figured my blood pressure must have took a sudden plumit to nearly nothing and that is what caused the episode as the heart tries to compensate for the b/p drop. So how long have you been pleagued with Pots
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I have been having panic attacks when I drive too fast or cross a long bridge. It is limiting my life. I think it is because I feel spacey and out of control.
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I know some of you guys have no choice--but this is why I no longer drive. Seems I have more troubles when I do--also my vision is not great for depth perception --I think it is making those YIKES attacks (and all that goes with them) more frequent.
My Sleep Apnea doc actually had me sign a slip saying I would not drive--for now at least--until he could be sure I would not have problems. But he didn't have to--I long ago figured out driving was a no go. |
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I am surprised at the replies to this one, So is it POTS or ANXIETY that's really bothering us on the road, I was thinking about nothing at the time, just going to work, and I had anxiety most of my adult life, I have been treated for anxiety for 7-8 years prior to getting Pots and this never happened, after I got pots it happened so I am pretty sure it is pots syndrome that caused it, I have had the same attacks not driving it's just as you know much scarier to have it happen behind the wheel.
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I have also gotten anxiety or felt 'weird' when driving. I can usually talk myself out of it. Sometimes I will go months and months without it happening and then it will happen a fair amount. I think once it does I have it in my head it might so that really doesn't help. I only city drive now, I stopped highway driving when I fell ill. And when I know I'm not up to it the car stays parked.
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Simple medical 101 here:
Tachycardia is 100 -150 bpm, supraventricular tachycardia is 150 bpm and up. As an RN, I don't know why the doc would say "it's not tachycardia if it's a gradual onset." Having worked and resided (time as a pt in - house) in a tele unit, what defined the arrhythmia was its duration, not the way of onset or returning to a normal beat. You can have "runs" of any type of arrhythmia, and that is what the techs/docs are concerned with, in my experience, as then they are able to zero in on what part of the heart is malfunctioning - different parts of the heart generate different "paces" of beats, then different rhythms in a set can pinpoint, say, a heart conduction blockage. Outside of cardiac 101; if I have any kind of episode with BP (have a pacemaker so those days are not an issue), I pull off the road and get on the phone with either someone that can chat with me until... or 911 if needed. Half the time in my neck of the woods, somebody will recognize my notorious granny wagon and stop to check. It's better to be safe, and 911 people will heartily agree with that. Pun intended. C. |
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i dont drive on the freeway, my brain seems to overload going that fast. i have told my drs about it but at this point, other than the EP, i still think that it goes in one ear and out the other. i took klonopin for 3 weeks, and i drove everywhere, including the freeway, but with having bouts of low bp, it made my go into a coma type feeling everytime i went to sleep. my guess is that valum and low bp doesnt go well together.
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Hello, Just wanted to touch base with you about this SVT, at OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL PRIOR to POTS syndrome that SVT is a SUDDEN JUMP IN HEART RATE and abnormal sinus ryth. I Had SVT for many years, carried a holter monitor and event recorder for much of the time. They could never catch it till one night in my sleep I woke out of the blue didn't know why and pressed the button on my event recorder, when they read it they say my heart rate was 62 and JUMPED to 120 no beats between, JUST A JUMP, Now they had enough at that point to do an ablation and correct the arythmia, When I got Pots several years later I started getting these seemingly outragous fast hard beats, I told the pots dr. MR GRUB and my cardiologist, they put an LOOP REVEAL RECORDER in my chest to catch this beat When they cought it my high rate was 165 per/min when studying the sinus ryth. they said it was all normal sinus ryth. and not SVT. I See my cardiologist in a couple weeks I will ask about it there. So you are saying It is still SVT? I hope not. |
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Shirley,
I just read this and it hit me like a brick. Been there--lived with that!!!! FYI--just had a sleep study and I have sleep apnea. Did you know that there's two kinds? One, that most people know about, where your throat is obstructed and your snore--another where your body forgets to send out the autonomic signal to breathe???? Do you ever notice you're talking and just run out of air--have to stop and "manually" tell yourself to breathe? If so, imagine how this would work when you're asleep? And the racing pulse you'd get as you rouse from sleep needing to breathe??? Anyway, for me it explained alot about my night spells--for others on this group as well with sleep issues. Maybe get a sleep study done? It doesn't hurt--and may help! |
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I have been diagnosed with POTS, Inappropriate sinus Tach, atrial fibrillation and SVT). I no longer drive. Although my medication does help limit my episodes, I still have many near syncope/syncope episodes. These are not always related to obvious heartrate/bp issues but probably are related to other autonomic problems that have evolved. Sometimes, the episodes can definitely be linked to a heart issue.
My unscientific way of determining what type of arrythmia is causing my symptoms is this: If it's a POTS or orthostatic intolerance episode, I am usually having a very fast, very quick heartrate jump upon position change or standing (not always sitting to standing but can happen with any position change with me - weird). Remember, you don't have to have a blood pressure plummet to have POTS. POTS is defined as an increase in heartrate of 30 beats or more within 10 minutes of standing. Many people do experience the hypotension associated with it, but many do not. I fall in the middle. If it's an inappropriate sinus tach episode, I can be just sitting in the chair watching tv, doing nothing or it can happen when I'm already up for awhile (this one can be hard to differentiate with POTS). For SVT, my heartrate is usually above 170 (per my Dr.). AFib is usually obvious because my heart has no rhythm. An ablation was attempted on me but there were too many affected circuits to ablate. My understanding is that it is possible to isolate the circuits that are causing the IST or SVT or afib and fix that but it is extremely difficult to do if you also have POTS because POTS is a brain issue where the others are electrical issues. My cardiologist has said that while he may at some point be able to repair the IST/SVT, POTS cannot be ablated and ablation on the other arrythmias may actually make the POTS worse. So, there are no guarantees and for now we are not pursuing that option. I have given up trying to figure out if the anxiety I feel at times is truly anxiety or POTS. It's like trying to figure which came first, the chicken or the egg. When driving, I think the overstimulation comes into play that affects our autonomic issues (similar to what happens while shopping). For me, I also have blood pooling issues while sitting. Anyway, that's my two cents and experience. |
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Wow, You have alot going on with your afib, pots, svt, and ist. What is IST I see it alot. I was just driving one time, than sitting watching tv another time, when they did capture the rapid heart rate of 160 on the recorder I told them I was just sitting and they told me it was normal sinus rythem and that it was not due to tach, so probably pots. I will clear this up when I see my cardiologist next month, I see you are from delaware that is ohio right? if you don't mind which hopital or doctors do you deal with? thank you too for the information. will wait to hear from you again. |
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Hi Shirley -
I am from the state of Delaware, not Delaware, Ohio. I wish I was in Ohio and could see Dr. Grubb myself It's very confusing dealing with all the strange nuances of dysautonomia. I try to sift through it all the best I can. I do have much faith in my Dr. and feel fortunate to have found him. Having said that, they all have their own way of explaining things and sometimes assume we know and understand all they do. |
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you are right. when they start talking chinese to me I ask them to put it into laymen terms for me and they usually do. I think many of us are well informed of our illness due to our research ability, I spent my life in school prior to getting sick. Of course fighting SVT for 8-10yrs prior helped me alot in research, The allways tell me "you're a good researcher" I am sure though that anyone with an illnes that lasts any amout of time will eventually research it to find out what they can. |
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